Pedrothere is a total difference in the mass.

But it is like the difference between the Mona Lisa being displayed at the Louvre or displayed at Guido’s pizzeria in Brooklyn.

I’ve always been intrigued about why the Church does not permit use of the 1965 missal.

Some of it?

If the celebration of Mass at the local parish were up to its ontology of being the one Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, which Christ himself identified as his glorification and purpose of coming into the world, instead of a feel-good goof-fest obscuring a holy Sacrament, the SSPX would dry up very quickly.

Spent six years in the seminary in the 1950’s. Set aside the most progressive bishops (no more than a quarter to the third), who wanted something much more radical all along.

and why dost thou disquiet me? You must go somewhere to a mass that has these elements. I am mean you no harm and am seeking to advance a conversation and do not appreciate an attempt by you to read or impgun my motives.

I took it to the priest after Mass. The actual Sacrament of Baptism took place after the Mass. My parish is not particularly liberal or conservative, so I’m sure the booklet is easily available.

Are we distracting to you?Third – I have no problem with the prayers, as long as the priests have no problem with me saying them wrong when ever they are changed. He brought it to his superior who eventually opened it to find out who is the owner. Passover service. One can pick readings associated with the “common” of saints of different sorts, or the readings of the day. Nevertheless, these prayers at the foot of the altar continued to be conducted in the 1965 Missal.
Thank you for the insightful (and balanced) article on this N.O.

How many more souls lost? They exist.

Secondly when I visited Japan, and looked for an English-speaking Mass. Gradually, manuscripts came into being that incorporated parts of more than one of these books, leading finally to versions that were complete in themselves.

And by virtue of the power of the keys, he did have the authority to do this.

As I wrote earlier, I want a God, a Jesus, I “can have a beer with”, not some cosmic thug. Dr. Joseph Shaw, chairman of the UK Latin Mass Society, is of this view. I will travel sometimes more than 100 miles to get to a NO or TLM where the congregation and the celebrant act with reverence.Hammer away: Taught by the good nuns ,who told us, (pre Vat) every where you go in the world the Mass will the same HELLO, the nuns put the fear of God in us, (Thank you Jesus) now I feel (not you) they opened the gates to pick and choose, the Church with all the rules are there or should say were to save our immortal souls, now since the church has reached out to us by opening the gates the Churches are MT to a point, how’s that working out for ya ? The 1965 missal, however, made no mention of this as an option.I too remember this Mass, then what happened, or had been brewing, bugnini………and is modernism and missal chopping, why Paul VI, allowed bugnini to continue forward is beyond words, look at the problems that have occurred since the 1970 missal has been put in place and liturgical abuses???? I am open to corrections in the article but my motives are not to mislead. Let us pray and do penance that the liturgical reforms desired by our beloved Benedict xvi will come to fruition.I was married in 1966 and still have the missalet with that in-between Mass. Sadly I am one of those who complain to the Pastor and the Order only to be ignored or told this what Vatican II prescribe and allowed.
We accepted the new “world views” and voted in left-wing governments. However, considering the Missal of 1970 to be a break in the tradition are by no means on target.

It’s time we stopped whining, and started praying. I can also recall the priests chanting parts of the mass in English for feast days and special occasions as opposed to weekly school masses which were not as solemn. But it seems that is sort of what got us to this point.I find I have to agree c matt.

It will happen, but we will not see it, like certain Israelites including Moses did not enter the promised land. so many theologians and so many ways to dismiss the fact that many Catholics who were not active for a number of years are coming back. One can also note many differences in national calendars, and between the Benedictines, Dominicans, Franciscans et al.

This was BEFORE it was generally approved at the parish level and I began to look forward to its adoption.The Mass of the early Christians was CONSCIOUSLY BASED ON THE TEMPLE ARRANGEMENT OF THE PLACE OF WORSHIP. Excellent points, even more excellently presented. All this during Latin mass time…!

I’m also glad that you bring up Benedict XVI’s vision that the OF and the EF are to mutually influence one another, rather than the only influence being that of EF over the OF. like my run of the mill parish.I wishes that the tabernacle will return in the center, the return of receiving communion on the tongue , that people will stop talking in the church , in fact there is more silence at the play house and no more gogo mass or new age occult stuf.

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